20:58 < pengvado> <Dark_Shikari> if a fansubber or DVD rip group uploaded an
                  H.264-in-AVI file they'd get laughed off the internet
20:58 < Dark_Shikari> ?
20:58 < Dark_Shikari> Probably
20:59 < pengvado> but asp-in-avi wouldn't be laughed at
20:59 < Dark_Shikari> of course not
20:59 < Dark_Shikari> ASP in AVI is normal unless you want softsubs
20:59 < pengvado> and asp-in-avi requries exactly the same ugly hacks
20:59 < Dark_Shikari> Probably because its been that way so long
20:59 < Dark_Shikari> that everyone is accustomed to it
20:59 < pengvado> which just goes to show that our campaign to use a new codec
                  as an excuse to tell people to upgrade their container is
                  working