17:11 <+snacky> I'm a galambosian.
17:12 <+snacky> the rest of you are WRONG
17:13 <+snacky> although lately I've been considering the idea that most people
                should be serfs living on a major that has a walled castle in
                it. the main reason I like this model is because it's resiliant
                against barbarian and viking invasions
17:13 <+snacky> s/major/manor
17:13 <+snacky> manors are relatively self-sufficient, so highway banditry
                doesn't doom civilization or anything. and they withstand
                seiges better than free cities